Comments on: The Church and Women http://www.roguereverend.com/2009/10/the-church-and-women/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=the-church-and-women watch out for lightning Sun, 01 Aug 2010 02:55:32 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.3 By: Alan Hirsch http://www.roguereverend.com/2009/10/the-church-and-women/#comment-232 Alan Hirsch Sat, 31 Oct 2009 18:57:15 +0000 http://www.roguereverend.com/?p=340#comment-232 I am also profoundly sorry for the way men have treated women as second class citizens of the Kingdom. Very unchristlike. I am also profoundly sorry for the way men have treated women as second class citizens of the Kingdom. Very unchristlike.

]]> By: Casey http://www.roguereverend.com/2009/10/the-church-and-women/#comment-231 Casey Sat, 31 Oct 2009 11:38:54 +0000 http://www.roguereverend.com/?p=340#comment-231 Give 'em hell and come to Austin so I can buy you lunch. :) Give ‘em hell and come to Austin so I can buy you lunch. :)

]]> By: Songbird http://www.roguereverend.com/2009/10/the-church-and-women/#comment-230 Songbird Fri, 30 Oct 2009 04:11:23 +0000 http://www.roguereverend.com/?p=340#comment-230 Lia, you are made of awesome. I would not have been able to sit through as much as you did. As a childhood Southern Baptist who moved to New England and THEN went to seminary, I had left behind the culture of my childhood. There is still sexism in the more progressive denominations, but it's not as blatant and it's getting better. I believe it. Did you see the discussion of "A Church of Her Own" at RevGalBlogPals this week? A lot of it was right on point. Lia, you are made of awesome. I would not have been able to sit through as much as you did. As a childhood Southern Baptist who moved to New England and THEN went to seminary, I had left behind the culture of my childhood. There is still sexism in the more progressive denominations, but it’s not as blatant and it’s getting better. I believe it. Did you see the discussion of “A Church of Her Own” at RevGalBlogPals this week? A lot of it was right on point.

]]> By: JB http://www.roguereverend.com/2009/10/the-church-and-women/#comment-229 JB Thu, 29 Oct 2009 00:46:39 +0000 http://www.roguereverend.com/?p=340#comment-229 I'm really sorry for your experiences. It makes me sick. Thanks for speaking out against this injustice that many people still blindly accept. I pray more women--and men--have the courage to expose it for the damage it does to people's lives. I’m really sorry for your experiences. It makes me sick. Thanks for speaking out against this injustice that many people still blindly accept. I pray more women–and men–have the courage to expose it for the damage it does to people’s lives.

]]> By: Lia http://www.roguereverend.com/2009/10/the-church-and-women/#comment-228 Lia Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:29:21 +0000 http://www.roguereverend.com/?p=340#comment-228 And point taken, Derek. Thanks. And point taken, Derek. Thanks.

]]> By: Lia http://www.roguereverend.com/2009/10/the-church-and-women/#comment-227 Lia Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:28:48 +0000 http://www.roguereverend.com/?p=340#comment-227 Jonathan, First, I love being called "Rogue." That makes me smile. Second, love doesn't mean validating the content of one's belief, especially when it means invalidating another's human rights. And perhaps the best way to love people who misinterpret Scripture is to educate them, to keep doing what women do in church (by the way, I heard one of the best sermons I've heard in a long while today, and, yep, you guessed it. A woman), to do our jobs well. And while women have come a long way, we still have so far to go. I just think I should get off my bum and get busy. Jonathan,

First, I love being called “Rogue.” That makes me smile.

Second, love doesn’t mean validating the content of one’s belief, especially when it means invalidating another’s human rights.

And perhaps the best way to love people who misinterpret Scripture is to educate them, to keep doing what women do in church (by the way, I heard one of the best sermons I’ve heard in a long while today, and, yep, you guessed it. A woman), to do our jobs well.

And while women have come a long way, we still have so far to go. I just think I should get off my bum and get busy.

]]> By: Derek http://www.roguereverend.com/2009/10/the-church-and-women/#comment-226 Derek Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:25:51 +0000 http://www.roguereverend.com/?p=340#comment-226 I agree with you Lia, but just be sure not to begin to lump all evangelicals into the same group...SBCs have their own issues, but I consider myself an evangelical and I believe God calls women into pastoral ministry... I agree with you Lia, but just be sure not to begin to lump all evangelicals into the same group…SBCs have their own issues, but I consider myself an evangelical and I believe God calls women into pastoral ministry…

]]> By: Jonathan Brink http://www.roguereverend.com/2009/10/the-church-and-women/#comment-225 Jonathan Brink Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:20:07 +0000 http://www.roguereverend.com/?p=340#comment-225 Rogue, I want to first validate how you felt by the two experiences. It's a deep problem and one that absolutely needs to be addressed. But something hit me in what you said that I want to ask about. Does love mean validating the content of someone's belief? Or does it mean validating the dignity of the person, even if the content does jibe? I don't see the former as part of the Way, but I do see the latter. I guess I just didn't want you to think anyone was expecting you to agree with the content. True justice calls for both truth and grace. And you were speaking the truth. Rogue, I want to first validate how you felt by the two experiences. It’s a deep problem and one that absolutely needs to be addressed.

But something hit me in what you said that I want to ask about. Does love mean validating the content of someone’s belief? Or does it mean validating the dignity of the person, even if the content does jibe? I don’t see the former as part of the Way, but I do see the latter.

I guess I just didn’t want you to think anyone was expecting you to agree with the content. True justice calls for both truth and grace. And you were speaking the truth.

]]> By: Drew Tatusko http://www.roguereverend.com/2009/10/the-church-and-women/#comment-224 Drew Tatusko Wed, 28 Oct 2009 22:15:28 +0000 http://www.roguereverend.com/?p=340#comment-224 all questions we need to continue to ask until it seems funny to ask them anymore. we don't ask about slavery. if we do, it is strange right? all questions we need to continue to ask until it seems funny to ask them anymore. we don’t ask about slavery. if we do, it is strange right?

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